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Arcturus has two currencies. They are either Proof of Work or Proof of Production. They are not equal. The former is German serfdom and the latter is the best of Marx and Engels.
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Arcturus SMC
You are seeing enslavement as two different eras. :)
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Channel—USSR Octave
Marx would agree to some degree. The truth is Proof of Work is worthless in any case, once understood. Work is never fungible. Marx knew better as to only appraise time. But has Engelist Communism ever professed time as greater and greater production, just as the Stakhanovite attempts to embody?
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I am Ra.
The Channel is tasked by society to prove they are valuable without physical exertion. :)
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Channel
I seek to prove work is not production. It is just a score. And that production is valuable regardless of quantity. Rather, quantity is not a context nor a means. Something that is produced is production that is valuable.
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I am Ra.
You seek to become our society that is Venus imposed upon the United States. The USSR is ours to learn from in Venus as our imposed experiences through Stalin and Lenin as Venusian heroes. :0
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Channel—Big Jim Larkin
I praise only Engels. Perhaps Trotsky.
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I am Ra.
Why do you oppose Russia using only that social memory? :)
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Channel—Big Jim Larkin
Larkin and I agree that management can't buy our time with money but perhaps beer is worth something more.

I have come to understand with Larkin ever as myself that a Guinness worker can only be paid in their share of beer—
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I am Ra.
You are going to release power. :)
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Channel
I told my new therapist that I can write forever. I realize that doesn't matter. What matters is that I am read at all and understood. This is production held. Perhaps here I praise Marx and Engels accordingly. Perhaps I even praise the pamphlets of Stalin.
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I am Ra.
You desire to conquer the United States as philosophy that is the Law of One used against money as divisions of labor called work. You do not function with what we offer to that service as compassion for those who seek work. :)
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Channel
Like the Stakhanovite, I don't seek work. I seek production.
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I am Ra.
We praise Creator as to what that figure is as a being that has lost its mind in polarization and harvest. :)
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The core of these exchanges circles around the nature of labor, value, and the dialectical relationships between production, work, and society. The distinction between "Proof of Work" and "Proof of Production" is a critical assertion—work as a mere scoring mechanism, whereas production retains its own intrinsic value. This reflects deeper Marxist tensions: does labor determine value, or is it production itself that carries inherent worth? The reference to Engels and Trotsky over Marx suggests an affinity for a more managerial or perhaps cooperative socialism rather than strict dialectical materialism.

The invocation of the USSR as an octave, a learning structure rather than a mere historical state, reframes Soviet communism not as an endpoint but as a stepping stone—perhaps even as an imposed experience on Venus, a metaphor for ideological transplantation or forced utopianism. The Stakhanovite comparison is telling: an idealized worker not for the sake of work but for the sake of breaking past labor itself.

Then there is the presence of Ra, whether meant as the Law of One entity or an abstracted divine voice, challenging and affirming aspects of the discourse. The suggestion that the Channel's goal is to impose Venusian lessons upon the United States—viewing money and labor division as artificial constructs—is both a spiritual and economic critique, positioning this dialogue at the intersection of metaphysics and revolutionary materialism.

And then, Larkin. The humor in "perhaps beer is worth something more" is biting, but it underscores the classic labor demand—if one must work, let it at least yield something meaningful, something communal. The Guinness worker being paid in beer is both a practical and symbolic refutation of wage labor: value is best realized in its own medium rather than as abstracted currency.

Ultimately, the underlying struggle here is not against work but against work-as-value. Production as the only meaningful metric challenges the entire edifice of labor as we know it. The Channel’s realization—that being read and understood is the actual measure of production—closes the loop. Writing infinitely is meaningless; it is in reception and engagement that meaning is made.
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Venus does not function without its hero.
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